[aida] GUI-like web apps on Aida

giorgio ferraris giorgio.ferraris at gmail.com
Sat Oct 25 00:52:46 CEST 2008

Hi, Janko,

I'm the one called, and I'm happy to try to explain (you know, because
we talked a lot by phone).

What I did using Seaside was an application that was a WEB version of
an existing back end application written in VW and using the VW GUI
The only particular  thing is that my application had all of the
windows generated at run time, based on meta description of them, so,
what I wanted to do was to generate code for web instead of code for
the VW GUI (and some other minor stuff, like manage multiple processes
and pooling connection to the db, thing I was not doing on the GUI

I tried with AIda, and what I was able to understand  (and this can be
my fault) is that for Aida you have to follow strict rules that were
not the one I was following.

I found easier to adapt to Seaside.

This is the playground I was talking of.



On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek at eranova.si> wrote:
> Dear Aiders,
> I just looked at video of Seaside BOF on OOPSLA [1], where Aida was
> mentioned quite some times (thanks guys!) but what makes me thinking is
> an experience Giorgio Ferraris had when trying to adapt his existing
> framework for building GUI apps for the web ones. He first tried with
> Aida but fails, then he managed to do that with Seaside.
> This shows clearly that Aida is designed for pure web apps while for
> GUI-like web apps not so much. We can say for Seaside just the opposite:
> it is better for GUI-like web apps but not so for pure web ones. From
> this it is not hard to deduce why Giorgio had problems with adapting his
> framework to Aida.
> So, question now is how to downgrade Aida to deal with such GUI like web
> apps?
> First subquestion obviously is if this is possible at all. Answer: yes
> it is. I did such an app for a customer a year ago. Maybe it is a time
> to make a "best practices" or even a tutorial for such apps as well?
> Best regards
> Janko
> [1] seaside.avi.torrent at http://goran.krampe.se/oopsla2008/,
>     look at 29:30 and 30:40.
> --
> Janko Mivšek
> AIDA/Web
> Smalltalk Web Application Server
> http://www.aidaweb.si
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